Testimony
Testimony On Estate Tax Bill - H.B.3 and H.B.4
Before the House Ways & Means Committee
April 18, 2007 Presented by:
Thomas Pitrone, Principal of the Integrity Group
I would like to thank
Chairman Gibbs, Ranking Member Foley and members of the House Ways and
Means Committee for the opportunity to testify before you today. My name
is Thomas C. Pitrone and I am a principal of the Integrity Group, a financial
planning practice I started with my father, Frank P. Pitrone, CLU. Since
we started our business in 1983, we have worked to guide individuals through
the complexities of the tax code while finding the most intelligent ways
for our clients to plan for their future. Overall, I have been active in
estate, succession and investment planning for small businesses for over
twenty-five years.
I also come before the Committee today as the representative of the Ohio
Small Business Council, the small business division of the Ohio Chamber
of Commerce
The Ohio Small Business Council (OSBC) is solely devoted to representing
the unique concerns of the small business members of the Ohio Chamber of
Commerce. Chamber members with fewer than 400 employees are automatically
enrolled as OSBC members. The OSBCs activities are led by a governing
board comprised of small business owners, in a wide range of industries,
from across Ohio.
OSBC also works to promote and protect the establishment, growth and vitality
of small business in Ohio by supporting legislative and governmental actions
that encourage small business development. OSBC reviews pending legislation
that impacts small business operations and communicates the small business
viewpoint to Ohios policymakers.
I also represent COSE, The Council of Smaller Enterprises that represents
over 17,000 small businesses in Northeast Ohio. Over 75% of our members
have 1 9 employees.
We are here today to discuss the impact of the Ohio Estate Tax on smaller
estates in Ohio. Most people think of an estate tax as merely a concern
of the wealthy. But that is not the case. As you know, the estate tax hits
Ohioans that die with a net worth in excess of $338,333. The price of the
average home in Ohio, particularly in the urban areas, is high enough to
account for about half of the exempt amount. An IRA or qualified plan and
a CD (certificate of deposit) can easily put a person into the taxable
estate range.
As a financial planner, I work with small business owners but the bulk
of my practice is with the middle-market family. They are saving for retirement,
or if theyve reached retirement age, they are planning the best way
to take their retirement income. Most are seeking advice on how to maximize
investment returns and reduce their tax liability. All of these folks will
be liable for the Ohio Estate Tax. About 38% of all the taxes Ohio collects
on estates comes form folks with less than $1,000,000 in taxable estate
assets.
Many of these people are not business owners. They are what I call successful
savers. They are typically a two income family that have lived frugally
and saved prudently. They live in a nice but modest home. They do not drive
expensive cars. They eat out often but not at expensive restaurants. They
have amassed a nest egg that will provide for them in retirement. They
have played by the rules and paid their bills and taxes on time.
As part of the review I provide, we talk about providing for possible long-term
care in a nursing home, avoiding the tax on their Social Security and estate
taxes - Federal and Ohios. It is always surprising to me, the number
of people for whom the idea of an estate tax is shocking. Youre
kidding! is a common reaction when I explain the liability.
The first response is usually resentment. The Ohio Estate Tax, even more
than the federal estate tax, is a death tax. One is liable simply because
one has died. Theres no other purpose, reason or explanation. Why
the state and your political sub-division have rights to part of your assets
at your death is never explained.
One of the worst aspects of the system is that assets that are usually
exempt from the tax, such as life insurance, become taxable if small mistakes
are made in ones distribution plan. If my beneficiary designations
are not current and my life insurance policy has to be probated, it is
subject to the 7% levy. That is a pretty big charge for distributing an
asset.
What do rich people do? is the common question. The range of
adjustments one can make to ones financial plan to avoid or mitigate
the estate tax is limited. One of them is to move from Ohio to a state
with no estate tax and sever all financial and ownership ties with Ohio.
A $20,000 Ohio Estate tax liability will not motivate folks to move from
Ohio. However, they may be thinking about moving already. Many of these
folks have second homes in other states. But a person with a $200,000 potential
Ohio Estate Tax liability must certainly consider leaving Ohio for tax
reasons alone.
The supply of folks with estates worth more than $1,000,000 is not inexhaustible.
Other states, not just Florida, are competing with us to attract successful
savers as well as small business owners. What are we doing to attract them
to Ohio?
When one of my clients asks what is the next step in the escape the
Ohio estate tax process, we take them through a comparison of Ohios
tax regimen versus their target state. If they are still interested in
proceeding, we explain the need to sever all ties with Ohio and limit the
time they spend in the state.
Once a person starts to ask these questions, I have never seen one who
did not decide to take the next step. They all leave Ohio.
If you want to know where most Ohioans move to, look at law firm and accounting
firm websites. You will see that most tax and legal practitioners are licensed
in Ohio and Florida. Georgia and Arizona are also very popular states for
former Ohio residents. I am licensed in Florida and Georgia as well as
Ohio.
The members of this Committee, and all members of the House, are probably
acquaintanced with the type of people Im describing - Middle-aged
or older with more than average discretionary income. So, I would be surprised
if each of the members of the Committees did not know someone that has
left Ohio for a state with a more favorable tax regimen.
When we lose these people, we are losing more than their estate tax dollars.
More than their income tax and sales tax too. We are losing friends. We
are losing their knowledge, experience, creativity, and time. These are
things we probably can not replace with money. I hope the Committee will
consider these facts when deciding on the elimination of the Ohio Estate
Tax.
Thank you again for the opportunity to testify before this Committee. I
am happy to entertain questions.
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