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Before the Conference Committee On HB 405
Interested Party Testimony
Present by: Daniel Navin; director of taxation & public finance
for the Ohio Chamber of Commerce
Wednesday November 28, 2001
Mr. Chairman
and Members of the Committee,
My name is Daniel Navin and I am the director of taxation &
public finance for the Ohio Chamber of Commerce. With me today are
five members of our Taxation Committee who represent Chamber-member
companies that will be significantly impacted by the three tax items
to which we will direct our comments. Id like to outline some
of the Chambers general concerns about the three tax items
before turning to my members for their more specific comments.
First, it is terribly unfortunate that this package is being sold
as one that involves the so-called closing of business tax
loopholes. By that line of logic, any transaction between
related entities, any valid financial instrument in which people
accumulate capital or save/preserve money for college or their heirs
that is not taxed, or any tax provision that allows companies or
individuals to pay less tax than the maximum allowable according
to the tax base and applicable rates is a loophole.
We were disappointed again yesterday that the administration continues
to persist in using that wholly inaccurate, pejorative term with
all its negative connotations.
The fact is that no matter how one tries to avoid it, these are
TAX INCREASES that jeopardize Ohio jobs and local communities
across the state. Despite the commentary from various sources that
now suggest these are minor tax increases, they are
being proposed at a time when it is confirmed we have been in a
recession for the last eight months, with no clear end in sight.
This is not the time to be putting additional tax burdens on Ohio
businesses.
Second, Ohio businesses establish budgets and expenditure targets
every year based on their estimates of sales or revenues, not unlike
the State or local governments or any other governmental agency.
Businesses also set spending priorities that often include plans
for expansion into other markets, again not unlike governments who
may initially plan to increase spending in certain categories or
programs. Unfortunately, in financially strained times like these,
such best-laid plans must be adjusted in light of the economic realities.
As a competitive imperative, a number of Ohio businesses have gone
through the painful process of laying off employees or closing plants
or other facilities. In other words, Ohio businesses are dealing
with the very same tough economic conditions that the State is facing.
In todays unstable economic environment, an approach to balancing
the states budget that significantly depends on imposing new
taxes on Ohio businesses during a recession is, in our view, short-sighted,
likely to be counter-productive and does little to help maintain
much less grow our economy.
In terms of the policy implications of these proposals, I have received
almost forty responses from members of our Taxation Committee to
the various proposals that have at one time or another been contained
in HB 405. The following comments are a composite summary
of our members perspectives.
1. Disallowance of Resale and Transportation For Hire Sales Tax
Exemptions For Related Entity Transactions
The supposed justification for this proposal seems to be based on
the premise that a transaction between affiliated companies is motivated
by so-called tax avoidance and is therefore an abuse,
not entitled to exemption. In the normal course of commerce, including
commerce between related companies, goods are not ordinarily sold
or leased for an amount less than what was originally paid for them.
The only reason for reselling goods for substantially
less than what had to be paid to an outside, third-party supplier
(or for less than it cost to manufacture the goods) would be to
reduce sales/use tax liability. If the alleged justification for
this idea is to deny the exemption where the item was sold or leased
to the affiliate for less than what it cost, the Department of Taxation
could be given what is called IRC Section 482/transfer pricing authority
to prevent such abuse.
Further, in the case of the resale exemption disallowance, this
proposal would have the effect of allowing the payment of sales
tax over the lease term where the item is purchased by a taxpayer
company from a third party, but not allow the same treatment
if purchased for the same price and on the same terms from an
affiliated company. There are totally legitimate, business related
reasons why a company would purchase an item through an affiliate.
For example, an internal leasing subsidiary allows a parent company
to better manage its assets. To establish a tax policy that summarily
precludes arms-length, inter-company transactions from qualifying
for these exemptions does not make Ohios sales tax system
either more fair or more equitable.
2. Expanding PIC Treatment to Interest and Intangibles Payments
Made to Out-of-State Related Entities
We can and have lived with the policy under current Ohio law that
prevents companies from deducting payments related to the use of
company trademarks, patents, royalties and other intangible assets
to a Delaware PIC that is arguably set up primarily if not solely
for tax reduction purposes. This was a 1991 change that has shut
down the practice of making such payments to what were perceived
as sham corporations that had no economic substance.
We dont have a problem with that.
However, it is quite another thing to disallow a deduction for payments
from the Ohio franchise taxpayer to out-of-state subsidiary or parent
companies to pull in transactions between affiliated companies that
have substantial, legitimate business (i.e., non-tax sheltering)
purposes. For example, many large corporations centralize their
treasury functions to take advantage of favorable investment and
borrowing rates, such that an interest payment from one affiliate
to another affiliate is an ordinary, necessary business expense
regulated by the federal Securities & Exchange Commission.
Corporations are free to organize any number of separate legal entities
for any number of business and tax reasons. Ohio up to now has generally
recognized the separate legal existence of these affiliated companies
and not taken a unitary or forced combination
approach. To start down that road, this bill is sending a very bad
signal, both to existing companies with Ohio operations and to the
business community at large.
3. Net Operating Losses (NOL) Deductibility Suspension
The provision to suspend the application of net operating losses
is a proposal to kick companies when they are down. It essentially
deprives companies an opportunity to benefit from expenditures that
profitable companies already recognized. For many start-up companies,
some of whom are just beginning to show a profit and other established
businesses experiencing tough times, its the wrong idea at
the wrong time.
Further, this idea changes the rules in midstream. Particularly
for cash-strapped companies, of which there are probably now a few,
the additional cash required to pay more Ohio tax without the NOL
carry-forward will be detrimental.
Mr. Chairman, that completes my testimony, and our other witnesses
will now offer their comments.
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